We have a summer cottage West and North of you guys, up 1-1/2 hours from Belleville ON. Just talked to a neighbor who said we have 2' of ice yet to melt but a 60 degree day up and going. We love that place in Summer but wouldn't want to have to stay there in Winter. Our Summer season starts mid-July!! Then when the geese start packing their tiny little suitcases to fly back down here, we'll be tagging along with them for the South Texas/Southern Belize style of winter.