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Colly, I sympathize. I also know a number of doctors that spend time in third world countries, providing their own supplies and support staff, to do gratis work on their own dime. It would be nice if other countries had the resources we have, some of them do, but their elite rake off the profits. We are chastised for thinking we are the world's policeman, would we be the worlds doctor too? Desertrat, many do aspire to better quality of life for themselves and their children, hence our immigration problem. Nobody is born with the wrong color skin or the wrong side of the border, everyone is who and where they are. There is no wrong this or that. Some are more fortunate than others. It is not the duty of the more fortunate to subscribe to guilt because of this, it is an opportunity to attempt to help those less fortunate. Everyone screams that we are not taking care of our own. How can we take care of the rest of the world also? Any "workable" ideas welcome.
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Now suck it up and run off to school!
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SIN, you ain't no cook, but you sure know how to stir.
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Collyk - yes, I do Belize this subject began as life in these US, the 'land of opportunity', and other 1st world nations, ie: Canada, UK, etc. I know that we are on opposite sides of the issue and we're not going to fix it. There are many actual needs in this world. Don't tell me my reality, you don't have a clue.
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Good points Bobber. While the USA controls a disproportionate amount of the world's wealth, it is not a USA problem. As I said, it is a global problem. I do disagree about the wrong skin colour and the wrong side of the border. Skin colour and geography are extremely relevant when you look at health care availability, access to education etc etc. I don't think this has to be or should be a USA centric issue but it does scare me when people say that they think poor people are in a minority.
As for guilt. I think that anyone who is buying goods or services that came from labour who were not subject to the same protections that you would expect for your own children should feel guilty. I certainly do.
By taking care of the world, we are taking care of our own - you were the one who said that you can't be born beyond the 'wrong side of the border'. If that is the case, then the world should be borderless. Sorry, but the fact is that there is enough money in this world for no child to die of preventable infectious disease or malnutrition and that is a very depressing fact.
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Perhaps if the US no longer viewed itself as the World's Policeman and Spreader of Democracy it could afford to channel taxation towards healthcare and keeping out the evil illegal Mexicans.
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Just In My Humble Opinion
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desertrat is thinking micro, you are thinking macro. Many people in this country need a hand up. Globally, peoples need a hand out first before they would be able to improve from a hand up. This country does much throughout the world to HELP as we should but we cannot be expected to solve the worlds problems. That usually gets us in trouble. In short the have's should be willing to help the have-nots but not be responsible for them. JMHO
For some odd reason I just don't quite picture MM writing out a monthly check to Feed the Children.
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I have a huge bucket of clues desert rat and I feel an obligation to have a clue when I converse on a subject. You may be making assumptions about me. But if you honestly are admitting that you are on the other side of the issue to me - ie. I believe that people shouldn't die of starvation, hunger and preventable disease when there is enough wealth to stop it from happening....if you are diametrically opposed to that ideal, then ...whoa..I can't really say that much.
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Let's have a nice debate and share viewpoints. If somebody actaully knew what was wrong and could fix it, it should have happened by now. Maybe next term?
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