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Pug, as usual you have a way of putting things in prespective. Damn, I wish I could express myself like you do!
"Hold on Tight To Your Dreams" ELO
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Heineken and Ganja may help 
It's rarely rocket science, it's usually just math: then again if you can't do the math.......
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I can be a fervent supporter of Bobby Jindal, one of the few politicians in either party who actually makes any sense, but if I decry Obama, the first assumption seems to be that its based on skin color, not on ideology? Almost like Deja vu all over again. When someone demanding a wallet while calling the victim a Honkey MF is not prosecuted under the same Hate Crimes Statutes as a felon violating the Civil Rights of a Gay Man or a Racial Minority, we have racism. They are, e.g.: Ca Penal Code section 422.55.
I can never remember which is better . . . safe? . . . or sorry?
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At least, on this count, the San Pedro Anti-Social Club should get high praise...we hate everybody!!!  Aggressively: Bill Thornton, Prez for Life, SPA-SC 
Gone fishing!!
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Pug, You have a way with words! I'd like to buy you a beer when I come down in August. As for the other, you are on your own. Nicely stated, even earned a beer!  Overall, I'll just restate that thicker skin would help solve this, regardless of the color of that skin.
Now live from beautiful downtown San Pedro.
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My daughter, at 5 years of age, was cornered in the school yard by another little girl and a little boy. The little girl said to my daughter, "You're black and you're bad!" To which my daughter responded, "Actually, I'm peach and brown and I'm beautiful."
It's all in the messages we send our children....racism and intolerance will die when we, as parents, stop teaching it.
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
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I am of Welsh descent and indeed it is offensive to call a Welsh woman English First I've heard of it and I'm 3/4 Welsh. My father only spoke Welsh as a youngster and had to learn English as a second language. IMO the Welsh don't like being called English, but not because it's insulting - just because it's incorrect and they want people to know their true origins. No, the insult comes in when you knowingly call a New Zealander Australian, or a Canadian American. All quite absurd when you look at how peoples have moved around the world. We are all mongrels and multi-racial.
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When someone demanding a wallet while calling the victim a Honkey MF is not prosecuted under the same Hate Crimes Statutes as a felon violating the Civil Rights of a Gay Man or a Racial Minority, we have racism. They are, e.g.: Ca Penal Code section 422.55. As I stated in my first post on this subject, (with a premonition of this discussion looming  ) The issue of Racism is always guaranteed to bring out idea loges on all sides of the issue, and "facts and figures" are available to "prove" almost any point of view. CA 422.55 is primarily a bill that deals with racial, gender and sexual orientation equality in schools: perhaps with all the resources available to her, Leah Ann will be able to offer examples of actual cases where the most liberal courts in the land have consistently applied Hate Crimes sentencing guidelines in black on white hold ups? While a part of my point, this was not an area I was intent on getting side tracked on: most discussions these days seem get broken down into finite arguments (like a trial?)and the general feel of the post as a whole gets lost. Is it more important in the big picture to discuss issues, or merely to "score points" by poking holes in someones arguement, while ignoring the crux of their point?
It's rarely rocket science, it's usually just math: then again if you can't do the math.......
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The old major problem with humankind. Us/them, black/white, rich/poor, our team/your team. our country/your country. Reasons to divide so someone can feel in some way superior. Unfortunately, the main problem is the different people and groups that keep this B.S. alive for their own benefits. If it wasn't milked, it would have disappeared long ago. Just my opinion of course (my opinion/your opinion)  Why is it always so much easier for some folks (I would guess a small, loud minority) to find something to offend them (and sometimes, offend them on someone elses behalf) than to find something to celebrate? I have come to the conclusion that some people just suck anyway, regardless of differences
Been there, done that, the washing machine ate the T-shirt
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Now this is funny! Pug - you bring more to this board than the previously mentioned, quoted oink person, ever has! Some people do not have any idea how to get off their soapbox. Life is about all of us, not singularity. Personally, I don't give two hoots what anyone thinks of me, and I am as blind to the penal codes as most of the people reading these posts. Good God, its all about conversations not the damned legal, I know it all, system. Love each other as we are or just step aside and let them through 
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