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SimonB #358438 11/20/09 05:48 PM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I grew up on the bayous, rivers and lakes in Texas and Louisiana and every commercial tug boat and large fishing boat had spot/search lights and they still do. in some instances they keep them on constantly depending on the situation and other times they just flash them on occaisonally to clear the area. You must have the light high enough so it doesn't blind you and at that height you won't mask your running lights.

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Originally Posted by Peter Jones
Originally Posted by klcman
Originally Posted by Peter Jones
In England the Scandinavian idea of cars having their headlights on all the time was tried for a while (recommended, not required). Collisions with bicycles went up because against the bright lights of cars, frequently maladjusted, bicycles could not be seen.


No logical connect to those 2 sentences.


You really don't see that if bright lights are coming towards you, you can't see a puny light just to one side?



Your initial sentence implied the trial use of headlights in DAYTIME. Thus, the disconnect. Collisions with bicycles had nothing to do with the suggestesd use of full-time lights on.


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klcman #358526 11/21/09 10:14 AM
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A boat accident on Sunday night off San Pedro Town, Ambergris Caye claimed the life of a father of two, left at least two injured and several people shaken. The tragedy claimed the life of 33-year-old Cesar Adolfo Scott, a front desk clerk, recently employed at Sueno del Mar Resort on North Ambergris Caye.

    Just before 7:00 p.m. on Sunday night, police were called to an area near White Sands Cove, situated some two to three miles north of San Pedro Town, to the scene of a boating accident. When police arrived, they were informed that two vessels had collided and as a result one person was killed and several people had been injured. According to lead investigator attached to the San Pedro Police Formation, Sergeant Paulino Reyes, the two boats involved were Tio John belonging to Coastal Xpress Water Taxi and Right Now owned by Sueño del Mar Resort.

    Initial investigations revealed that the vessel belonging to Coastal Xpress and captained at the time by Luis Alberto Paz was heading north with six passengers and an assistant boat captain. According to Sergeant Reyes, Paz reported that while on the route, he suddenly noticed a boat in front of him. He further alleged to police that he turned to his right to avoid the collision but the other vessels, belonging to Sueno del Mar, also turned right and that is when the collision occurred. The vessel belonging to Sueño del Mar was captained by 42-year-old Antonio Tepaz, and his co-worker Scott was a passenger. As a result of the collision, Scott received severe head and body injuries and reportedly died upon impact. Tepaz on the other hand received internal injuries, a broken ankle, and injuries to his head and was airlifted to the Karl Heusner Memorial Hospital for further medical treatment. The only injured person onboard the Coastal Xpress boat was 43 year old Lynn Tonny, an American National who was given medical treatment and then released.

    According to Sergeant Reyes, while blood samples were taken from both captains to ascertain if alcohol was a cause, their investigations are pointing to two main things, speeding and lights. According to General Manager of Coastal Xpress, Darrell Williams, based on the account given by Paz, "he (Paz) did not see the other boat and it appeared to have no running lights on the other vessel (Sueño del Mar vessel)." Williams flatly denied allegations that his boat was speeding because eye witnesses stated that Paz had just of-loaded a passenger on a dock. "It simply could not have been speeding because our boat was pulling off a dock so at that point it could not have been speeding. I think it's just the fact that it appears that the Sueño del Mar Boat did not have a running light." While the General Manager of Sueño del Mar, Kevin Myers, would not go into details of the investigation, he denied allegations that state that his boat had no lights and explained that his boat has the proper equipment to operate at sea. Both officials from the Belize Port Authority and the Police Department conducted an inspection on the vessels on Monday morning.

    In speaking to The San Pedro Sun, some of the passengers onboard Coastal Xpress, stated that they were inside the cabin of the boat and did not see the other approaching vessel because they were in an enclosed area. The passengers stated that they knew something went wrong when they heard a loud and terrible bang and were thrown all over the inner part of the boat. Both Myers and Williams will accept responsibility for the incident pending the outcome of a proper investigation.

    Mayor of San Pedro Town, Her Worship Elsa Paz stated that the collision could have been avoided given the circumstances of the incident. "We have been saying to the Port Authority that several vessels have been operating without the proper lighting equipments," stated Mayor Paz. "It is unfortunate that someone has to die before authorities react," added the Mayor.

    Both San Pedro Police and the Belize Port Authority are investigating the incident. No one has been arrested for the incident and Scott's body was transported to the KHMH for a post mortem examination. During the night of the tragic accident, a cell phone belonging to Cesar Adolfo Scott went missing. The only way to locate the mother of Cesar is through a contact number that was on the phone. Myers is asking anyone who knows the whereabouts of the phone to please contact the office at Sueño del Mar as soon as possible.

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Marty #363147 01/02/10 10:27 PM
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BAsed on our trip for a week in dec I think there will be more of these collisions.

Some of the boat operators operate too fast at night and too fast at night in the rain, and run too close to anchored boats. they do not use good maritime caution, and some boats have inadequate lights.

I did not use the cowboy word but it fits some of the "captains".

Does Belize have any law/requirement to have a flashlight or interior light when carrying passengers for hire at night (loading/unloading etc)?

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ed50 #363204 01/03/10 06:35 PM
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A VERY unscientific but revealing survey from my dock the other night showed that over half of the boats that passed by did NOT have complete legal lighting. Almost 15 per cent had NO lights. I am very reluctant to venture out in my boat at night because of this. A "marine traffic cop" stationed out there would more than pay his expenses in fines and would go a long way toward saving lives.

Rimrattle #363207 01/03/10 07:16 PM
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What is more dangerous imo are boats using flood lights (that they have installed for docking purposes) driving at night, totally blinding oncoming boats and forcing them to totally stop. That has been happening a lot in the last few months. I think those lights should be outlawed, because they can become a serious hazard for night time boat travel!


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Short #363233 01/04/10 12:46 AM
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why not have revolving orange hazard lights on the water taxi boats to help visibilty, they do go pretty fast despite the darkness, and these navigation light onthe boats are NOT that big or visible

martyu #363244 01/04/10 09:49 AM
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Martyo , i agree with Short the light effects night vision and causes navigation problems.
I'm sure the experienced people know this.
From time to time new home owners and new hotels along the beach erect bright lights and after a few complaints from captains they get letters from the Port Authority explaining this as a navigation hazard.
Century old boating practices don't need change they just need enforcement and the Belize Government has a very poor record of that.


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elbert #363245 01/04/10 10:01 AM
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what else has changed over the years is the boat horsepower- now 2 200 HP motors is common.

ed50 #363254 01/04/10 11:03 AM
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I was one of the passengers on the "Coastal Xpress" water taxi involved in this horrific accident.
I am very concerned that since this accident I have witnessed many boats still traveling at night without any lights on.
I still use "Coastal Xpress" and feel they offer a safe as possible service, but if other boats continue to operate without lights at night, then there will be another accident.
Now that the BPA is stationed on the island hopefully things will change.
I also would like to see night patrol boats that could stop speeding and boats that operate in an unsafe manner.


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