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Yea! This is good news but a calculation from an Environmental Impact Assessment would say how many , how big , how often.
with out it this is just a token to pacify the complaint that the project is being done recklessly and illegally, without consideration of what damage it will do to the island.
Good news... Yes but still an abomination.

I purchased a lot in GBE and was hoping this road would be built with the enviroment in mind. The plan was to do just that from what I was originally told. It breaks my heart to read the posts on here and see the pics too. The reason I wanted to be in Belize was for the beautiful wild life I love to photograph sunsets and animals. I hope that things improve with the roads and the people making all these profits take in consideration the beauty that is Belize.

@ Harrygio3:

Do you have a clean and clear hard copy title on the property that you purchased? I would get a second and third opinion on authenticity of that document, if so. And have you looked at your parcel? I ask because it is likely knee deep underwater.

Three things I would do immediately if you haven't already: Find a real estate attorney who you can guarantee is NOT involved with ANY facet of GBE and get a professional assessment of your title. Try a private office in Punta Gorda, perhaps. Second, go and put your own eyes on the property. A key indicator is the water line on the mangroves. You will notice one of two things, either you will have an immediate need for a rubber wading suit or you will notice from the water line on the vegetation that you will require one very soon to get to your parcel. There are only a few acres of littoral not in the water shed. Third, inquire with the utility companies about plans for utilities to GBE. If you're not laughed out of the office then I consider that about the best you can hope for.

If you are extremely lucky then you have an authentic clean and clear deed in your hand for one of the five higher lots immediately next to the eastern most border of the subdivision. The problem is that the only stretch of usable road that subdivision will see in the next 200 years will be the eastern most border as it bypasses the subdivision entirely to get to, assuming they pan out at all, a planned golf course and resort across the lagoon from town. The southern most E/W road within the subdivision is slightly out of the water, but the road will stop a tank and there's no incentive to fix it as rumor has it that most lots are now sold.

Best of luck.

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jesse, why would you even ask, unless ...................

........you already knew the answer.

Jesse is a lawyer too???

Belizebird
You are way off base, and you have been called out on more than one occasion for your libelous comments. You are once again guilty of repeated libel and defamation, and you need to be called out for it.

As for titles, there are over 450 lots sold to owners in Grand Belizean Estates. I have personally handled, and sent by registered mail, over 150 newly issued original Deeds of Conveyance for lots sold to clients in Grand Belizean Estates. Belize Bank, Atlantic Bank, and Scotia Bank have all issued loans for lot purchases in Grand Belizean Estates after review of the legal documentation of the subdivision. And I personally know several Belize attorneys who themselves have purchased lots, and have received Deeds of Conveyance on their purchases in Grand Belizean Estates. Two or the most prominent law firms in Belize - Barrow & Williams, and Arguelles & Company have handled closings for lot purchases as well as those closings facilitated by the Grand Belizean Estates office directly.

I have enclosed photos of work that was done on subdivision roads over the last seven (7) days. These photos show the initial road clearing of trees and dense vegetation, followed by the ripping of the rock surface and grading of the hard core road base with heavy construction equipment. These photos are indicative of the quality of road surfaces being provided for ALL subdivision roads, and not just select roads as alleged by Belizebird.









Hundreds of purchasers have personally selected their lots to purchase after walking the subdivision roads and seeing for themselves exactly what they were purchasing. I am enclosing the Lands Registry map for Ambergris Caye showing the precise location of GBE Subdivision and its relative proximity to the Laguna de Mato.

Lest you accuse me of falsifying the Lands Registry map, I have also included a bird's eye view from 25,000' taken last week, in which you can see the proximity and location of Grand Belizean Estates on high and dry ground.





As I have offered in the past, I will gladly give of my time to take any interested parties up to see Grand Belizean Estates Subdivision for themselves.

Libel and defamation is hateful and does not accomplish anything. I wouldn't ordinarily take the time to dignify such libel with a response but this is ridiculous.

To Juan Grande,
Why wasnt an Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) carried out for GBE?

@ Juan
My concern is why you feel that anything I've suggested is libelous? That's the number one problem I had in dealing with your group, how quickly the personnel seems to pucker up like a prune when anyone makes a comment or asks questions. I'd work on that, it's a real turn off. In actuality I'm helping your organization out and perhaps you don't realize it. I mentioned the high ground. To date I'm the only person to visit GBE who is not associated with your group to openly mention the high ground in this forum. That's a bonus for you guys.

In fact, anyone with reasonable eyesight should be able to spot all three patches of high ground in the last photo you posted. The pic is taken from a long way away, after all. If you squint your eyes a little and look at the aerial photo Juan posted you may notice three ever so slightly darker patches of vegetation along the right edge of the red border. One in the upper right corner, one midway along the right border and one in the lower right corner following the main southern most E/W road in the subdivision. Look at the picture and you'll see it. Anywhere else in the subdivision I'll bet you get wet. Of course my interpretation at nine miles away could be askew, which brings me to my next point...

Visit the lots, we share that same opinion. Anyone purchasing lots in the subdivision should take the time to go look at the terrain. That was my suggestion #2, I believe. Could be wrong about that. Let's scroll back up. Nope, I was right, suggestion #2. I recommend going with Juan since he will gladly give his time. (Can't imagine why you'd do that? What's in it for you? That's really generous.).

The most jaw dropping and laughable of your defensive mechanisms is in suggesting that I am libelous for recommending to someone that they seek a second opinion on their title or ask about information regarding utilities. Legitimacy would dictate that you should have absolutely NO qualms what-so-ever with inquiring minds. Or do you prefer that buyers remain uneducated and not verify the security of their purchase? Because we both know there is only one reason you would want that.

As for my final magic trick of the evening, I invite readers to look once again at the aerial photo in the bottom of your post, the one marked as "taken last week". For your consideration, Ladies and Gentleman, where is the sandy road labeled "Hardcore Road Base, Graded, Level Surface, After" in that aerial photo, because the only one I see stops at the edge of the subdivision exactly where I remember it ending eight months ago? That is a misrepresentation that has been propagated time and again by your organization's personnel, including fraudulent representation on the GBE website and I thank you for posting clear evidence of that to a public forum. Tell me publicly that there is a finished, sandy, level road anywhere in that subdivision when the aerial photo from "last week" says otherwise. Go ahead.

The craziest thing about this endeavor is that you could have simply represented the lots as what they actually are and not have to endure scrutiny. "Some of these lots are low and will require permitted filling", what's wrong with that statement and why haven't you made it? "Some of these lots may require permits to remove mangroves", is probably another comment which might be helpful for your organization to learn. "This is a picture of the road outside the subdivision, although we make no guarantee that roads actually inside the subdivision will be finished to same degree of completion", might have been a statement that a legitimate seller would mention. "Lots are being sold without guarantee of utility or vehicle access", might have been a perfectly forward and honest representation. Or perhaps you did mention the last one in the contract fine print? "For greater clarity, and without restricting the generality of the foregoing, the Seller makes no representation whatsoever with regard to the supply of land fill, road access, utility services or with regard to any other alterations or improvements to the Lands or the surrounding region." - GBE contract word for word.

Funny GBE would add that to the contract when their biggest advertisement campaign revolves around the fact that there will be road access and utilities?

Just give an honest representation, guys. Save people the headaches of buying into a money pit sight unseen or shelling out thousands for a trip to Belize to find out for themselves. You'll still sell your lots! But people will know what they are getting into. I have no problem buying a cheap, submersed lot with no road access or utilities for the advertised price when I know that's what I'm buying. Why wouldn't you want that? As always, I invite an open discussion on the subject.