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jeffb #405348 04/17/11 08:27 AM
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Ernie, those commandments are RAD

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I read the post on Ambergris Daily and we do not have that much money invested in our equipment. Again we are not a micro brewery, we are trying to have a brewpub. What we want to do is have an alternative in our place to sell along side Belikin. We do not have the capacity to only serve our beer, we would run out. There are some rumors going around now about if we were to open Belikin would have to lay off employees, etc. Nothing like that would happen because we wouldn't even be on their radar selling such a small amount. In the US you could start a decent Brewpub for 400 to 500k and a microbrewery would cost 2 to 3 times that amount but you have to remember that a place in the US would seat a couple hundred people, thats not the case here.

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I wouldnt pay any attention to the Ambergris Daily if you can help it. That guy picks a fight with everyone. Its part of your babtism to the island.
Its no secret that your issues are with Bowen and Bowen. If you can strike and arrangement with them your problems will quickly disappear.

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The 11th Commandment: Thou shalt ignore Ambergris Daily. Boast not thy self of tomorrow, for knowest not what a day my bring forth.

jeffb #405421 04/17/11 08:49 PM
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jeffb #405609 04/19/11 06:51 PM
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The argument about harming Bowen's Belizean workers livelihood if his beer stranglehold is infringed on is just utterly ridiculous.

Imagine if Bowen had monopoly on all retail trade in Belize and they came up with the same ridiculous BS when someone was trying to open their own independent store, or sell produce from their plantation or fish they caught at a market without going through Bowen.

We all know that having no restrictions on who can grow cabbage, onion, potatoes, corn, raise chicken and cattle is a way do go. It's good for the producers and it's good for the consumers. Do we agree on it? Even if the market is as small as in Belize?

If we agree that that monopolizing production and trade of cabbage or potatoes is a bad idea (remember soviet bloc?) what makes beer different?

Why would the market forces that work for many competing small and big agro producers, traders, shopkeepers, etc. and allow them to support their families and keep the economy going suddenly didn't apply to beer?




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If the brewing you want to do is not the problem with getting your permits, I would suggest researching the resorts and individuals who make wine and sell it legally here in Belize. I think you have a cool idea, it is not being done or overdone. There are more than enough hardware stores, golfcart rentals, dive shops, or just the "same old thing everyone else does" shops to choose from. If this town can support more than one baker, butcher, airline, cellphone company and many other unique businesses, then it certainly can support one little brewpub. (No offense intended to anyone who has a hardware store, golfcart rental, dive shop, or just the "same old thing everyone else does" shop) I personally do not drink beer, but I think I have the right to "not" drink anything I want, including your brew, not just Belikin.

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Anyone knows if there is anything in the Commonwealth or Belizean law similar to the equal protection clause under the 14th amendment to the US constitution?

I'm not going to hold my breath, as Belize is run more like a mob territory than a real country - and failing at that too - it ain't the stuff that's running this zoo.

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Actually, we do need govt or agency controls for local production and importation in certain sectors. We now have too many onions on the market, both locally grown and imported from Holland, some or much of which, will spoil. Unless we all only eat escabeche and add French onion soup to menus, its a big waste and loss for producers and importers. I'm not sure what problems Jeffb is having getting his project off the ground, but not sure he is knocking on the right doors to get the process going. Contact BELTRADE


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jeffb #405641 04/20/11 08:01 AM
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Won't the market sort it out? when your onions spoil you don't import more.Gov would never allow the correct amount of onions always too much or too little like every other thing they do.Their job is to protect us from dangerous onions and the like.

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