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Well as you said Elbert you can dig it up anywhere at anytime and my own experinces are apparently living proof of that. What you've said is indeed 180 degrees out from information and statements made at our annual board meeting during an agenda item discussion. Please I'm not saying "baloney" to what you've siad, far from it. It's just that the person giving the report was a 20+ year resident and very well versed in permits and construction on the caye; ergo very very credible. The fact you got a permit recently is certainly at odds with the supposed official position that was part of that report...very curious.

It seems everyone is always pointing fingers every which way, both officially and privately, yet no one seems to be able to specifically point at a policy document or law that says as much one way or another...Not that law, by most accounts, appears to have much affect on this stuff anyway...in fact at this point after all the construction related boners I've seen discussed on this board I'm not even sure that having a permit issued makes something legal...

I might simply add that because of disparity in information caution needs to be taken when it comes to construction.

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I've had three docks over the years and have been told there is a moratorium on dock permits by lots of people but just the same I was just recently granted one and If you would like I can show you the letter from the Town signed by Elsa saying Okeedokee give mr greer his dock permit.
no special treatment just no moratorium.
Its just another one of those weird contradictions you run into living on this Bizarro Isla.
Honestly I've been hearing about this fictitious moratorium since day one on the island. Its a great excuse if you don't want to build one.
I first heard it from John Edwards. He had sold me a couple of acres of land that was supposed to have a dock built on it by him as per the subdivision plans and of course he couldn't because....
by the way the subdivision was Mata Grande and there where no docks what so ever at the time in mata grande.
Then the PUP would say that the UDP had the moratorium and they couldn't build any docks and of course then the UDP would say they couldn't because of the PUP.
mean while the island went from a few docks to the thousand or so we have today.


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Hire German Graniel to build the pier...and get the permit. He has no problem.

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True he does seem to come with installed permits!
but one could also ignore people telling you you can't get a permit and just apply anyway.


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Originally Posted by elbert
I've had three docks over the years and have been told there is a moratorium on dock permits by lots of people but just the same I was just recently granted one and If you would like I can show you the letter from the Town signed by Elsa saying Okeedokee give mr greer his dock permit.
no special treatment just no moratorium.
Its just another one of those weird contradictions you run into living on this Bizarro Isla.


Nah, I believe you Elbert, I've no doubt that has been your experience. I was simply trying, by way of my own personal anecdote to relay that the rumor, debate, myth, or whatever, appears to be alive, well, and plainly represented as law by knowledgeable and respected members of the community. I just find it astounding that conflicting information over such an important building issue is still out there. I think you've captured the situation perfectly in the quote above; weird contradictions on Isla Bizarro. Both sides appear to be equally emphatic and your UDP vs PUP comments certainly provide insights as to the political shadings of the picture as well.

But, ha!, Given your offer of proof of permit (or three) in hand I think I'll be taking that info back and asking a respectful question or two of the individual who was so emphatic about the moratorium's existence. Regardless, it makes me all the more conservative about construction planning until I've had some official indications from the current authorities. Thanks as usual.

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Was there really a pier moratorium? I thought there was just a moratorium on dredging along the east coast.

The lands department has been extremely slow in issuing licenses since it conducted the census and held the physical inspection period while GPS readings were taken for every existing pier.

I imagine they are trying to clear that backlog before starting to issue new permits.

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In regards to lots for sale on the beach south about 4.5 miles, you should expect to pay anywhere between $110K and $180K for. 50 ft wide lot.

We chose to live south of town because we wanted to enjoy easy, affordable access to town. With family members all having different schedules and interests and the need to be able to travel day and night this has turned out to be a good decision.

It is nice and quiet where we live and we are part of the south neighbourhood watch patrol area so we enjoy the added security and comfort of having the patrol officers around 24/7

I would enjoy living north of, say, the Reef Village area, but south really is the most convenient for our needs at this time.


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Originally Posted by Amanda Syme

I would enjoy living north of, say, the Reef Village area, but south really is the most convenient for our needs at this time.


If I had a cart, I'd live south just to avoid the bridge fees and sometimes slowdowns. With bicycles only, they're both equally desirable, IMO. Different strokes...


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I'd enjoy living north of Reef Village too, way north...

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I think it would be good for Bear to live way north of Reef Village; somewhere where he has no access to telecommunications

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