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If a timeshare salesman and an IRS agent were both drowning, and you could only save one of them, would you go to lunch or head to the nearest bar?
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depends on what his first career was - used car salesman or lawyer
_ _ _ _ _ _ _________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ But then what do I know, I am but a mere caveman
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I'm sorry that I missed SINs message that started this redirection. Anyone have a copy they can forward to me?
What's with all the censorship, anyway?
As to the question about hiding behind pseudonym screen names. My thoughts are that it is fine for general chit chat but if you have anything of substance to say, especially if it is of a critical, derogatory or accusatory nature, then you should sign your name or have the information in your profile. Otherwise it has no validity.
Larry
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I am still curious if this guy (SIN) had the decency to delete the offensive remarks or someone else acted as his conscious.
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My experience at CM's on my honeymoon in July:
Got stopped in the street by the French girl. Told the usual stuff that gringos get, but fortunately I "won" the grand prize. (wink, wink)
I was against the whole thing, figured if we wanted to see CM's, let's do it on our own, without the sales pitch, but my wife talked me into it.
Boat picked us up on time, salesperson (middle aged woman, name is slipping my mind at the moment) gave us the tour. Very nice property, too much "Temptation Island" stuff around for my taste, but different strokes I guess.
Then we met with the Scotsman that is the closer. Wrote out our package "price" on a sheet of paper out of the printer (very professional I must say) and asked for the 10% down. At this point, I asked to see the actual contract we would be signed, which I was told we could not see until after the deposit was handed over.
The next barrier was that the Scot crapped in his hat when I told him everything had to be cleared through my attorney and financial advisor. I got the "why don't you trust us" rap and the whole nine yards. At this point, I told him I'd need at least 30 days to decide, at which point the "deal" was off the table and I would have to pay "market price" for the whole thing.
So we left, had lunch (on the Scot's tab), tipped the staff nicely and went back to Ramon's.
Now any good deal, IMO, is good today or a month from now, as Capt Jeff has pointed out. My clients all have a window in which they can end services and receive full payment returned. As of yet, no one has asked to do so.
My two cents from the Motor City.
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Very informative story. Thanks for the imput. You see this is where SIN fails to get the message when he is critical of people giving their imput. He forgets that our two cents (US) worth is worth twice as much as his two cents (BZ)is worth. 
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our two cents (US) worth is worth twice as much as his two cents (BZ)is worth I liiike it!  I'm gonna use that one. time share sales person .. there are none in haven all time sales people are bad and crooks Eventually government wises up and drives the scum away sophisticated timeshare scum The BTB have not got a clue All time share sellers are con men If there are honest ones ... and I have never heard of a honest time share agent ... I have a better chance at getting hit by lightening get screwed every day by the con men who sell time share The idea was, "...don't throw stones". I made reference to a known fact. You are making a statement which may possibly take food off my family's table. Why should I not answer my accusers? SIN
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I am still interested in whether you had the decency to delete your offensive post or if someone else did.
And, you probably do not get the subtle reference to US$ and BZ$. Just to make it more understandable, the underlying reasoning is listening to what customers say can be worth twice as much sometimes as just listening to what you want to hear.
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Jeff N., sorry, which property was this?
bywarren, SIN is a consortium, and not tyring to sound like a smart-@#%, I did get what you said. I was taught we have two ears and one mouth, so we should listen twice as much as we talk.
I din't think I was the one with the overwhelming negative and very pointed posts.
Point well taken.
SIN
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