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ITS INTERESTING TO SCAN THE WEB FOR ARTICLES FROM THE 1970'S PROCLAIMING THE COMING OF THE NEXT ICE AGE: EVEN MORE INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT SOME OF THE GLOBAL WARMING PROPONENTS OF TODAY HAVE SWITCHED THEIR ANTICIPATED TEMPERATURE EXTREMES OVER THE LAST 30 OR SO YEARS, BUT STILL BLAME THE SAME PEOPLE (BIG BUSINESS, OIL COMPANIES, REPUBLICANS, ETC)FOR WHATEVER DIRE CLIMATIC STATE THEY ARE PREDICTING NEXT

I don't understand global warming nay-sayers. If we all live a more environmentally friendly lifestyle and it turns out the whole thing was a hoax, we'll still have a cleaner planet as a result. What's the problem with that?

Nothing.

I AGREE TOTALLY BIG MIKE: I FULLY ADVOCATE PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY, NOT JUST FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, BUT IN ALL AREAS OF ONE'S LIFE. THE LESS GOVERMENT INTERVENTION I HAVE REGARDING WHAT I EAT, DRINK, SMOKE AND DO, THE HAPPIER I'LL BE, BUT I DO GET A LITTLE ANNOYED WHEN I GET LECTURED TO BY SOMEONE WHO DRIVES THEIR PRIUS TO THE AIRPORT BEFORE BOARDING A PRIVATE JET, WHILE BUYING "CARBON CREDITS" FROM A COMPANY THAT THEY OWN......

I would love to see hybrid cars and even more what it would do to shake up world economy.
To bad the world can't tool around in golf carts like we do.

CHEVROLET HAS A FLEET OF 200 HYDROGEN CELL POWERED EQUINOX'S IS SERVICE IN 3 MAJOR CITY'S IN THE USA...THEY APPEAR VERY PROMISING, AND SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IN 2010/11 IF THE INFO THEY GAVE US AT LAST YEARS DEALER MEETINGS STAYS ON TRACK.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THE CURRENT HYBRIDS IS THAT THE STATS THEY GIVE FOR MPG ARE TOTALLY UNREALISTIC, AS THEY SWITCH FROM GAS TO ELECTRIC POWER AND TOYOTA HAS RECENTLY HAD TO RE LABEL THE MILEAGE ESTIMATES THEIR PRIUS MODELS.
THE CURRENT YEAR MODEL SUBURBANS, TAHOES AVALANCHES AND SILVERADO TRUCKS, AS WELL AS SOME CAR MODELS HAVE AN 8 CYLINDER ENGINE THAT RETARDS TO 4 CYLINDERS AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS, BUT GOES BACK TO 8 CYLINDERS FOR PASSING ETC.
I GET 22-23 MPG FROM A FULL SIZE CREW CAB TRUCK, WHICH IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT OVER PREVIOUS MODELS: WHEN YOU LIVE (AS WE DO) 32 MILES FROM TOWN, AND HAVE SEVERAL HORSES TO CARE FOR, A TRUCK IS A WORK VEHICLE, NOT A LUXURY ITEM, SO ITS GOOD TO SEE PROGRESS MADE BY ALL THE WORLDS AUTO MAKERS, EVEN THOUGH IS LONG OVERDUE

It's always interesting to read 'facts' on climate change. No doubt about it that we are seeing climate change but to blame everything on CO2 !!!. Before you shoot me for saying so..consider these few snippits.
1. The biggest greenhouse gas is water vapour. (BTW..hydrogen based engine produces more water vapour than a gas engine)
2. Deforestaation is another word for removing a CO2 sponge.
3. Greenhouse gas affects have been blamed for reducing the effects of pollution...isn't that a good thing??
4. Greenland ice is melting..true..but they forget to mention that Antartic ice is getting thicker. (not the ice shelf...the land ice).
5. All glaciers are melting. But we only monitor 5-10% of the worlds glaciers. Of the missing 90% some are actually growing.

I doubt very much there is such a thing as a scientist who understands..the media of course have it all worked out!!

Strangly enough the same scientists predicting global warning also say it will cause currents to shift and cause a cooling of the artic and hello next ice age....complicated stuff eh.
Sounds to me just like the cycles the planet has gone through before. A simplistic view..maybe....But I read an official scientic release (ok..it was in the paper)a few days ago that 1/3 of greenhous gases is methane and most of the worlds methane production comes form the backsides of pigs and cows....The brilliant enviromentalist answer was that we stop eating meat so we won't need cattle!! My answer would be for everyone to own a cow, plumb its butt into the house and cut my natural gas bill...:)

The bottom line..cut polution, smog etc, curb the use of limited resources, try out new technologies so you can guage whether its actually a good idea and walk the talk if you are really concerned....otherwise get on with life and adapt to changes which are going to happen regardless of what we do. (unless of course we turn the lights off..retire to our caves, freeze in winter, grow trees instead of food and shoot all the cows...:)


I grow my owm veg as much as possible, compost all waste, use solar panels to cut my electricity bills and drive a V8 extended cab on 85% ethenol...but I'm buggered if I'm going to give up steak and pork ribs. BTW... it snowed today...global warming???

Wonder how many Ford Expeditions Al will buy with his money?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...mate-story/2007/09/20/1189881602765.html

mmmm. I know what I'm having for lunch!

Kyoto is a total crock of sh*t. The countries signing Kyoto have INCREASED their carbon output since ratification. If Gore's hub-bub about Kyoto is that the U.S. simply look good, fine. Otherwise shut up already!

Hear! hear!