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just eaten at a restaurant that advertised cheap beer on Mondays-we get there a party of 20 which was prebooked-they had not got their beer order so had very few beers (they did send out for some after many complaints-good)-the food was served to our party from 7.30 pm to 9.10 pm-I called for my bill at 9.35 -received it at 10.00pm-expensive food -cheap warm beer -I complained to the owner twice-they agreed they had under trained and insufficient staff-the billing problem was they did not have a pos system-there were 12 other paying guests on three other tables I was told that when the owners had been in my bar the beer was too cold (I consider this a compliment)and I expect far too much and should not eat out- Personally I say if you live by the sword you die by it-if you open a restaurant and take a booking for 20 you should be able to provide their meals at the same time and if you cannot provide cold beer close it until you can-or advertise the fact we only serve luke warm beer the last thing the bar tender was pissed I only tipped him around 4% and told me so-I believe you tip for good service and good drinks am normally ambivalent about food
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Warm beer...just like in england.
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What I want to know is, where did you find 20 people willing to go out and eat with you?  Any you see Bill, even Englishmen like Pedro learn from being around Americans. Things like beer is better cold. I have even taught him that proper baked beans are not just a can of Heinz beans warmed up on the stove.
Last edited by bywarren; 08/12/08 07:06 AM.
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I suspect this is a cultural misunderstanding. When people from the USA go to England and don't read their guide books about some of the language differences, they order beer in a pub. They receive real ale, which is correctly served at cellar temperature and no colder. If you want a 'beer' like they are served in the USA, you ask for lager. All decent pubs sell lager cold and many pubs chill their glasses.
What disturbs me is that a few bars in San Pedro (no names mentioned) keep their red wine in the fridge, which is quite honestly disgusting.
Sadly, both pubs and real ale are rapidly disappearing in the UK. In ten years time, a pub will probably be only be found in a British theme park.
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And, Pedro's is known for Italian food and German liquor. Also, not to be arguementive with another English person. But, red wine is to be stored at 55 degrees and drunk at 65 degrees for best enjoyment. "Room temperature" is not 85 degrees when it comes to drinking red wine. http://www.bettertastingwine.com/temperature.html
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Agreed bywarren. But the correct temperature for a fridge should be 37 degrees. Red wine can be refrigerated but it should be brought back up to the correct temperature before being served.
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My rule of thumb is to chill white wine in the fridge and take it out and let it sit for 15 minutes. For red wine I keep it at room temp then stick it in the fridge for 15 minutes before serving. Perfect temps every time.
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I just unscrew the cap and drink it.
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...the best thing about England is if yah get drunk and drive on the left side of the street...it perfectly acceptable.
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Many people put ice in their red wine it's all a matter of taste.
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