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This is the ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLWHiQQ7yVY&feature=related
Does everyone understand this is a gross misrepresentation of what is for sale? Mangroves and scrub bush, No slice of paradise, no coconut trees, no water, no electricity, no sewage, no view of the reef, no high ground, but there is for sure the fat guy willing and ready to accept your money.


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Great marketing video but the main thing that would stand out to me is the lack of aerial photos of the area for sale. Lots of aerial photos in the video but none of the area for sale.

That would be a red flag to me.


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"Aerial photos of the area for sale", as requested. Please see below.

Elbert
"Fat guy"? Wow,... that's a compelling analysis. You got me there. I never did understand why everyone calls me "Big John", but now I know. Thank you for your touching and sensitive way of breaking the news to me.

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Where is Colonia San Diego I & II in relationship to the above?

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Juan, why dont you answer the question ,the GRANDE question ,why wasnt an EIA done for GBE. Is there a reason why you refuse to answer the question that has been asked the most, cause you seem to certainly have an answer for every other question.

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I have highlighted the subdivision areas of Ambergris Bay, Colonia San Diego I & II, and Grand Belizean Estates. Hope this is of help to you.

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I'm not the person best qualified to answer your question, because I'm not the Minister of Environment, and don't have the authority to answer for the Department of Environment.

But, since you value my opinion, I'm happy to answer the question and explain the difference between an EIA and ECP.

In accordance with regulation 3(2) of the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) Regulations, 1995 as Amended by SI 24 of 2007, requires any developer prior to the commencement of any project or activity, to apply to the Department of Environment (DOE) to determine if an EIA is required for said project. In accordance with regulation 14, subject to review of the submitted documents the DOE may determine: 1) An EIA (Environmental Impact Assessment) or a LLES (Limited Level Environmental Study) is required subject to regulation 8; 2) an EIA or a LLES may be required; or 3) an EIA is not required. (See flow chart below.)

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In accordance with Part V 20(6) of the Environmental Protection Act (EPA) 1992, the Department of Environment (DOE) may elect to make its own environmental impact assessment, if it decides that one is required.

In accordance with Regulation 10(2) of the EIA Amendment Regulations, should the DOE determine that neither an EIA or LLES is required, then the developer may proceed with the developmental project or undertaking, subsequent to the granting of environmental clearance by the Department in the form of an Environmental Compliance Plan (ECP).

An Environmental Compliance Plan (ECP) is developed by the DOE and signed between the Parties. An ECP is an agreement/contract which outlines the conditions upon which environmental clearance is granted for the project.

Environmental Clearance was granted by the Department of Environment (DOE) for the proposed subdivision of Grand Belizean Estates (192.81 acres) subsequent to the signing of an Environmental Compliance Plan (ECP) on November 10, 2008.

Grand Belizean Estates is required to comply with all the stated terms and conditions within the Environmental Compliance Plan (ECP).

Thank you for asking the question and for allowing me to explain the Environmental Clearance granted to Grand Belizean Estates by means of the ECP.






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Dear Juan,
Interesting answer but missing the truth I'm afraid. In a limited number of cases DOE have the authority to determine whether a development requires an EIA or LLES , but the law clearly specifies developments for which EIA and LLES's have to be completed.
In the same law you were quoting from there are three schedules(1,2 and 3) listing types of projects and what level of environmental study they require.

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Schedule 1
The following shall be considered as schedule 1 projects.
An Environmental Impact Assessment shall be completed for any project, program, undertaking or activity with the following purposes:
Section 7 Housing Subdivisions.
a)Large scale housing developments or a subdivision on the mainland involving the proposed construction of more than 300 houses.
b)Housing developments of more than 50 houses on the cayes or island.

So GBE clearly falls under this section.
So I ask again. WHY DID GBE NOT COMPLETE AN EIA.




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How many culverts in place now? Has work started on the bridge?

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Keller there is one.
Since the project was covertly planed and they got caught making it with out culverts or bridge I'm suspicious about anything said about more converts and will watch closely as the road progresses to see if more are installed. The one is very obviously not going to do the job. I heard a rumor the DOE is on the case now and is insisting the project be done correctly. We''ll see and and I'll keep posting.


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The Mateo subdivision on the island, done with out hope of water or sewage is now the subject of international relief to assist the people that where allowed to settle there.
http://www.sanpedrosun.net/old/07-492.html
Its the same situation, cheap lots for local people that are promised water and sewage.
Now a disaster that San Pedro has to have foreign governments come in a rescue inhabitants.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=268647241623&v=info&ref=ts http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=268647241623&v=info&ref=ts


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