Wisely put, Pug . .but yet . . limiting this thread (or any successor thread) to original thoughts will be problematic. Both the far Left (bereft of fiscal reality) and the far Right (bereft of fiscal decency) fight their battles with platitudes designed to keep any opportunties for common solutions impossible. The income gap in the US is obscene; the desire to socialize us unto Greece is no less obscene. Any original thought is welcome, but the best-educated morons of three continents have not solved human nature.

When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it.