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#55573 08/01/02 02:53 PM
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It really gets on my nerves the way some post on this message board are deleted. It seems that if you're not showing off your fat American ass or talking about your next holiday it doesn't mean anything to anyone else and depending on how the administrator feels you might actually see a reply to your messages

#55574 08/01/02 02:56 PM
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i sometimes delete some of my own threads when they are beat.

#55575 08/01/02 03:02 PM
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Because the people that run this board have a financial interest in Ambergris Caye. They dont want anyone hearing the dark side, so they delete what they want. Without tourists, AC would die. So lets not hear about sea grass, dogs, pollution, dead reef, high prices, kids pan-handling...

#55576 08/01/02 03:09 PM
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Ok, I'm totally confused.
Seems like I've read a lot of both positive and negative things on this board recently.

DesertDiver, all the things you mentioned have not only been discussed, but they are STILL here for the reading. What exactly are you talking about?

Marty is the only administrator on this board at present so if you have a complaint about something you wrote being pulled, then email him at marty@casado.net and I'm sure he will explain why he pulled it if in fact he did.

It ain't rocket science.

#55577 08/01/02 03:22 PM
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DesertDiver - please email me direct if you can find the time. I'm looking for a place to vacation with a group and seeing your prior posts and honesty you probably can help me out. Thanks.
sjjohnston1@prodigy.net

#55578 08/01/02 03:41 PM
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The only thread that I am aware of that has been deleted lately is the one started by the man who was trying to expand his debt collection effort to this message board. Many of us, including the moderator, Marty, apparently felt that this was an inappropriate use of the board.
And of course, Prozac Man's spams are routinely deleted, at no small expense of effort by Marty and his helpers.
Your accusation that anything controversial is deleted is inaccurate. There are many intense, strongly worded debates on this board right now, such as (for example) the discussions about animal cruelty, Long Caye, whether there should be a marine preserve. You may wish to read those threads for a brief lesson on how to engage in debate in an adult, civilized manner.
The point is: Nobody is being censored for expressing strong feelings or for discussing a controversial subject.
Even people who are obnoxious, apparently incapable of engage in civilized argument and display evidence of being an asshole online are not deleted. May I point out that your posts are still there?


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#55579 08/01/02 04:00 PM
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Occupation: attorney
Location: Fremont, CA, USA
Interests: Belize, cats, outrageous acts and everyday rebellions

Susangg, i think your level of sarcasim is exceptional but then again you're an attorney!! Debate should not be suppressed.

Re: If it doesnt exist , let them listen
To the "let them listen" guy who thinks that its OK to let spooks invade our privacy because they are protecting us from terrorists: You must have your head up your ass. No, they are not protecting us from terrorists. They are much more interested in finding out if we visit Cuba, smoke dope, or send songs to our friends.
It's HARD to catch international terrorists. It's EASY to catch you and I breaking stupid laws that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
Picture a government employee: Is he going to do something EASY or something HARD?

#55580 08/01/02 04:17 PM
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All becomes clear(er).


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#55581 08/01/02 04:20 PM
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My fat (?) American ass is still confused. Should I take my hard earned money to vacation in a third world country? Or not? I think so.

Lighten up.


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#55582 08/01/02 05:30 PM
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SUN, what the hell are you railing up about?

What has any of that got to do with the price of tea in China since the Korean conflict????? or pulling posts????

Dayam! LOL

#55583 08/01/02 05:36 PM
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"Help you out" I'd be happy too.

Don't read us, decide for yourself, go to BELIZE, come back and tell us about your experience.

Many repeat visitors on this board, and we have many other places we could go, but it is our choice to go to BELIZE, often.

You too, have a choice, go or don't.


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#55584 08/01/02 06:32 PM
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If you would not use the language you used maybe it might be still there..
Especially if you are LAWYER!!!!!!!!!
You are an a... for using that language,
Kids read this board too...
Take care on how you right and maybe that wouldn't happen.....
Rick

#55585 08/01/02 07:58 PM
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Rickcheri:
I think its your turn to lighten up a bit, don't you think? We lawyers are real people ... why by golly, some of us even speak real English, you know...like just plain folks!
I don't feel it incumbent upon me to censor myself quite that severely, nor do I feel required to dumb down what I say to the level of what might be appropriate for an 8 year old...I assume that if kids are reading this board its because their PARENTS have given them approval to do so.
Still, I agree that "asshole" is a fairly strong condemnation and I don't use it often. But once in a while...it just cries out to be said. In this case, the somewhat crude (and repetitive and inane) attacks on "fat Americans" seemed to be one of those occasions. If that bothers you...well...you know the drill..


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#55586 08/01/02 08:33 PM
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sjohnston:

Desertdiver has his opinion on San Pedro, and in his opinion it's correct. You admire his honesty, so you seek his counsel. This is good.

But, I would urge you to ask for the email addresses of a few of the countless individuals who have posted to this message board praising AC.
They are honest people too, you know. My email address would not be appropriate as I live on AC and own a business.

Those of you who get bent out of shape when inappropriate/offensive content is deleted should remember that this message board is paid for with advertising dollars from businesses on Ambergris Caye. You get to read it for free.

99.99% of what is posted is not deleted even though some of the content is not complimentary to AC (desertdiver is just one example). I think it makes the board interesting and fun to read provided it is honest criticism rather than constant grudge carping weeks or months after the vacation of the unhappy camper has ended.

#55587 08/01/02 09:14 PM
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i have nothing to sell. never did. i really am a housewife. i did go back. and went back again. and took a friend who wants to go back.

i was the first to say JE wasn't good.

so, i don't see where you r coming from. i invited idaho back to say whatever he wanted, didn't i?

say what you want, we know what we know.

#55588 08/01/02 09:46 PM
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anyone who thinks NOTHING should be deleted should look at the long trail of dead message boards ruined by repeated trash being posted.

people getting folks to write to them, so that they can poison their thoughts about vacationing in Belize, with the expressed purpose of reducing Belize tourism.

there can be live viruses on message boards, folks who "get to know you", and then spread their poison around. that is why email addresses don't show on this board.

so choose your advice carefully. and just because someone rips on the island does NOT make them trustworthy.

this board is for public discussion of issues related to the island. i guarantee one thing, NO GROUP LOVES IT ALL THE TIME. No businessman loves it all the time. no public official loves it all the time. i am in no one's pocket.

but i love to work for the island. i kiss the sand when i land and i tear up everytime i arrive or leave. because i love the island, i have to be choosy sometimes. Like Chris said, 99.9% is left on, good or bad, and no one loves it all the time.

tis better to respond than purge is my motto. but sometimes i simply must purge if it is crazy information like there are dead horses on all the beaches, or trash on all the beaches, cops pulling people out of their golf carts by the hair at every corner, i have seen these and much more.

now its all water under the bridge. yell and scream about it all you want, but i have to do what i have to do.

c'est la vie. Long Live La Isla Bonita, its amazing and beautiful people, and its natural wonders. Come and see us, you will only regret you didn't come sooner....



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#55589 08/01/02 10:33 PM
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Marty--you are not here?
Like a ghost you come and go.
I have a comment I would like to make and I don't care if you delete or not.
So--DesertDiver--you probably live there(the desert) because no one will put up with your whining.
I think you should stick to the geriatric cruise lines where you can bitch about the toilet paper being to scratchy in you room.
Actually they build resorts for people like you--Sandals is one--where people get paid to listen to your uniformed ineptness..-I used to call it mandatory fun--lets watch the whiner self destruct.
FYI--I love Belize and everything about it--I am now a Belizean--When you take that cruise ship and a sailboat comes longside, I will be the one mooning you.Come see me at the bar. I am not a nick. I am real and suffer the consequences of my rantings.
Find another place to get rid of your frustrations. We got our own problems.
Ps. come down for a hurricane if you are such a hotshot.


I always get to edit at least once to delete the explitives.
Jim

[This message has been edited by Pier Lounge (edited 08-01-2002).]


Jim
#55590 08/02/02 03:53 AM
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Jeez -like many of those who pay lip service to free speech, Sun - tells all and sundry to 'shut the **** up' like some nasty drunk in a bar. Then has a fit when HIS free speech is censored - like when that nasty drunk gets chucked out of the bar. I see that free speech is valuable - when it is MINE!

Now the bwai stands outside the bar and rail up some more! Go head, rail up! You still have your free speech - from outside the bar.

[This message has been edited by belizeanblue (edited 08-02-2002).]

#55591 08/02/02 07:37 AM
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Ya know Jim.....if it weren't for lawyers, our house would be completely paid for!!! Lawyers, ya gotta love 'em. Sun and Susanng-which side of the "fence" do ya'll work for???? And Sun...your "tone" is so bitter??? WHY? What is your interest, or dis-interest in Belize??? Marty, you've done a GREAT job with this board and your judgements come from a place of HIGH morals and values. Why don't you lawyers start your own thread and debate each other??? And Susangg, as far as Rick's request on the language thing....in the recent past weeks, i have had people, adults and teens, walk into my places of business openly using words like f-ing this and that, to he## with this, that..etc....WHEN in this society did it become OK to use profanity in public???? This is a "public" forum. We don't need terrorists in this country...surely they can see we terrorize ourselves just fine!! And Sun..."Fat A...Americans?? Where are you from??? OK all of ya'll...let me have it!! Dynamite comes in small packages!!! STOP being so angered!!! PLAY WELL TOGETHER!! CHERI JIM-Geriatric cruises??? LMAO...made my day!!!

[This message has been edited by rickcheri (edited 08-02-2002).]

#55592 08/02/02 08:54 AM
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Who said Sun was a lawyer?

But guess what, lawyers are people too.

#55593 08/02/02 10:47 AM
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i am american, and i have been accused of having a fat ass before. i don't send songs to my friends. i am not an attorney, but don't have anything against them. i curse in public all the time, but fefrain from doing it on the board.

i do not believe there are terrorists hanging out on the "about ambergris" board. nor do i believe marty's intentions are to protect me from terrorists.

i think the guy is just doing his job, on a board that he created for our enjoyment. so we can share what we like (& don't) about AC. anything he does here is ok by me.

i do not get my panties in a bunch about much. i think many of you do. i think you all need a chill pill & lighten up. have a nice weekend.

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Well RickCheri: Like I said..I think the way I "talk" is OK but you are free to disagree..that is what makes life interesting isn't it? Those scroll keys are great when you don't like what you read, aren't they? Just keep on hitting the "down" arrow.
And since you asked: I have been a civil rights lawyer for 27 years. For the past few years, I have specialized in elder abuse litigation -- I sue for profit nursing homes for violating the civil rights of elderly people by torturing them (sometimes to death) for profit..and yes, I do a lot of pro bono (that means free) work as well. In the past, my practice has concentrated on criminal defense initially and then whistleblower and plaintiff employment discrimination litigation...always on behalf of the little guy against well heeled big corporations and sometimes the government.
So that's "what side of the fence" I am on...


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#55595 08/02/02 12:40 PM
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keep on with the lawyer bashing folks cuz that only means that you are leaving us accountants alone for a while!!! damn i like this freedom of speech. i guess i should thank a lawyer for that.
gay

ps: janie - i didn't know you wore panties.

#55596 08/02/02 01:43 PM
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NYG -

me thinks that some took the implication from one of "sun's" posts that he/she was a lawyer when in fact the subject of his/her post was directed towards susangg, whom we all know to be a lawyer, thus the comments which followed.


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#55597 08/02/02 02:24 PM
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uckingfa ightra
etterba elizeba tia

#55598 08/02/02 05:03 PM
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TISH!! YOU SPOKE FRENCH!!

#55599 08/02/02 05:54 PM
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ok Sandman ....know what u said hahhahah #@%^$#@ right,better belize it? lol, too funny...I always thought this was a board for adults not children....am I wrong? I don't why anyone would think, that their ears would be spared cussing now and then.

Sweet Jane....it's panties in a wad my dear....panties in a wad hahahahh lol.

MR


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herewa idda ouya indfa hista odeca pellersa? [Linked Image] (old dick tracy decoder)


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#55601 08/02/02 06:15 PM
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lucky charms

#55602 08/02/02 06:15 PM
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MR, your panties may wad, mine bunch. nothing i have 'wads'. maybe gum. sorry! perhaps it is an east-coast thing?

my kids said something funny recently...remember atomic wedgies?

perhaps THAT'S what it is!!! LOL!

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It's not panties in a wad or a bunch, it's "knickers in a twist". [Linked Image]


A fish and a bird can fall in love, but where will they build their nest?

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nuts in a knot

#55605 08/02/02 07:55 PM
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Yo Momma is so fat and old, When God said "Let There be Light",He Told her to move her fat ass out of the way
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One afternoon at the bank, in a long line of people waiting for a bank teller, one guy suddenly started massaging the back of the person in front of him. Surprised, the man in front turned and snarled, "Just what the hell do you think you're doing?"

"Well," said the guy. "You see, I'm a chiropractor and I could see that you were tense, so I just had to massage your back. Sometimes I just can't help practicing my art."

"That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard!" the guy replied. "I'm a lawyer. Do you see me screwing the guy in front of me?"
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In a recent FDA study, the United States government doctors who were conducting studies on test drugs administered weekly doses of VIAGRA to an equal number of doctors and lawyers.
While the majority of the doctors achieved enhanced sexual prowess, the lawyers simply grew taller.

The US government researchers are at a loss to explain.
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where there termites on the ark?

#55607 08/02/02 09:29 PM
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nuts in a wringer . . .


A fish and a bird can fall in love, but where will they build their nest?

#55608 08/03/02 10:00 AM
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klcman..scroll up.....Sun says..Occupation:Lawyer. Still wondering what "side of the fence" he works on??? Susanng...hat's off to you for working for a meaningful cause!!! C

#55609 08/03/02 10:14 AM
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Cheri,
I think those first few lines was the info SUN was quoting from Susan's profile.

When you click on "who" it gives you info if the person has chosen to fill it in.

In otherwords, SUN was trying to sum up Susan as if it made any difference to the postings.

I'm going to step right out on that limb and say Susan strikes me as a highly intelligent woman. She could probably stand to laugh a little more, but some people are just serious folks. You can't fault her for not laughing as much as some of us do.
I would imagine it's hard to see the lighter side of life given her profession and the type of law she is doing.

Just remember folks, when your ass is in a jam, most people call on God first and then their lawyer. Hmmmm.

#55610 08/03/02 10:48 AM
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Regarding the use of the word "asshole". It is very apparent here that, as a wise person once said, "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and everybody thinks everyone elses stinks".
We all have our own opinions formed of our own expectations and experiences. It seems there are people who really like AC, and want to share their experiences with others. There are also some who didn't like it and may want to warn others away. Hey, if you didn't like it, just don't go back. The happy people seem to outnumber the unhappy.
Personally, I will go back every chance I get, until it stops being a great experience.

Also, we need lawyers to protect us from other lawyers. What a system.


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#55611 08/03/02 11:09 AM
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Enigma - you are absolutley correct---Sun was quoting Susangg's info, something that he/she was too insecure/chicken hearted/cowardly to do him/herself.


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#55612 08/03/02 11:50 AM
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I appreciate all the information Susangg gives us, and has for almost 2 years. Good info FREE from an Attorney, does it get better than that? No it does not. Susan has been a great help on many subjects.
Stay with us Susan. I just know Susan laughs, often.


Dare To Deviate
#55613 08/03/02 03:17 PM
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oh yeah, susan's my kind of friend, and the fact that she's a lawyer too shows the legal profession can be used for good!

#55614 08/03/02 03:26 PM
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Whew........got that settled, I think.

I bet Susangg laughs ( at all of us )
Aren't we something rather funny?

#55615 08/03/02 04:51 PM
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Sweet jane - try thongs.

#55616 08/03/02 07:16 PM
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yo mamma so fat...that when god told her to haul ass....she had to make two trips.

MR


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#55617 08/03/02 09:06 PM
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What a bizzarre thread


Jim
#55618 08/03/02 09:17 PM
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thong threads? or thong threads bare?


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#55619 08/03/02 10:07 PM
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LMAO at myself!!! I JUST got it!! He's NOT a lawyer!!! LOL...dah....but i never look at peoples profiles???!! I've had bronchitis for 3 days....i'm medicated!!! And yes Jim...strange thread........C....let's meet for a game of "pool"

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barb - i am busting up!! i just had this thong conversation with vicki the other day...i just can't do it. i've tried, but i hate them! talk about atomic wedgies...

(plus, those of us with, um, larger rear ends...ever look backward in the mirror with one on? it was SCAREY! that was that for me!)

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Yo mama's so big, when she goes in the water at the beach she changes the tide.

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Yo Mamma is so fat,
The National Weather Agency assigns names to her farts.

Yo Mamma is so fat,
when she weighs herself the scale says "To be continued..."

Yo Mamma is so fat,
when she sits on a dollar, blood rushes out George Washington's nose!


Love is a many splendid thing and food runs a close second.
#55623 08/04/02 10:57 PM
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I saw a joke thread somewhere


Jim
#55624 08/05/02 05:53 AM
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J' tem Merd! Et' castua! (Translation from French) In other words... what a bunch of CRAP! REEEEALY!


PS. Find out what I'm up to at www.broadjam.com/barefootskinny

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Because somebody is heavy finger on the delete key. Also if it's to NEGATIVE it will get pulled. Just ask me...

Hi Marty

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Idaho, you make it real difficult to respect anything you say. You are a jerk but I suppose you already know that. Why not get a real life?

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more fun less "MORALS"!! rickandcheri lighten up!! Hope Marty doesn't delete my rickandcheri bashing!!

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WOW...what exciting lives you people live!!

#55629 08/06/02 03:57 PM
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Gosh dang it!
I always miss the good stuff!
What did Rick & Cheri say that obviously got deleted? LOL

Yes SUN, our lives so so hectic. It's sad huh? LOL

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